Wikipedia talk:Book sources

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Consideration of xISBN

Has it ever been considered to use xISBN integration into special:booksources? xISBN is an OCLC service API which given a single ISBN returns a list of associated ISBNs, like all the editions of a specific title. How would one go about proposing such an integration? As a disclaimer I do work for OCLC. Maximiliankleinoclc (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

It looks like it was already included in the Wikipedia:Book sources#Find other editions section, when you asked in May! I've now updated the link to the main OCLC page, based on Nakohdo's recent update to your comment above.

Let us know if anything else needs to be tweaked. (If the API gave more verbose/useful output, then I might suggest moving it further up the page, but the plaintext list of isbns is only potentially helpful, not obviously/clearly helpful. If you see what I mean.) HTH. --Quiddity (talk) 18:26, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

I just tried the xISBN link and it returns only a list of ISBNs. The xISBN documentation says that it returns metadata plus a list of ISBNs. Does this mean that something needs to be changed in how the query is sent? LaMona (talk) 15:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Maps Wikipedia talk:Book sources

RfC on new library search tool for Wikipedia

We have a new tool, Forward to Libraries, which helps readers find books at their local library related to the articles they are reading. There is an RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Linking subjects to books at your local library (Forward to Libraries) to determine how this tool should be used on Wikipedia. Interested users may wish to comment there. 64.40.54.57 (talk) 01:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Treatment of invalid ISBNs

This article contains a ref that has been assigned an invalid ISBN and is tagged as such in the citation template. Following the ISBN link in the article will take one here, where a scary red message is (in my opinion) likely to strongly discourage people from searching further by this method, however the "find this book" links for at least WorldCat and COPAC Union work perfectly well. Is it technically feasible to suppress the warning in these cases (where the ISBN has been explicitly tagged as "invalid but definitely as-printed"), perhaps by passing an additional argument to Special:BookSources? TuxLibNit (talk) 18:34, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

@TuxLibNit: You should probably ask at Help talk:Citation Style 1, as that is the page generally most watched by the editors familiar with Module:Citation/CS1, the Lua module that creates the error message. Best -- Mr. Stradivarius ^{? talk ?} 22:01, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

@Mr. Stradivarius: Thanks, but are you certain I'm in the wrong place? I'm talking about the error displayed on the Special:BookSources page under the "Go" button like this not the error displayed in the article as part of the {{cite book}} or whatever. Also, even if the error itself is generated in Module:Citation/CS1 this question is as much about the mechanics of how that module is plumbed into Special:BookSources. Does that aspect also belong elsewhere? -- TuxLibNit (talk) 22:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

@TuxLibNit: Ah, sorry, I didn't read that carefully enough. The warning on Special:BookSources is generated by MediaWiki itself, and the algorithm that determines whether the ISBN is valid or not is also defined in the MediaWiki software, and is separate from the one used in Module:Citation/CS1. I'd suggest WP:VPT as a first port of call, which a few MediaWiki developers normally watch. -- Mr. Stradivarius ^{? talk ?} 22:34, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Estonia

• Find this book on Ester, the catalogue of ELNET Ester libraries

Kaljukask (talk) 10:39, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 03:38, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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AbeBooks

Name is given as "Abebooks", but company name is actually mixed case: AbeBooks, and the link is presently to Advanced_Book_Exchange = old name.

Current ISBN link code for AbeBooks is not broken, but neither is it up to date. A better version might be http://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/MAGICNUMER

Zac Thompson (talk) 09:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

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Book Source Suggestion for India

Since there is no option for India listed currently, I will like to suggest adding Shimply as one possible option for users to find the book - Find this book

Shimply.com has India's largest book catalog. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajatgarg79 (talk o contribs) 12:38, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2015

External link to

http://www.acc.umu.se/home/saasha/getcover/

10-digit/13-digit conversion tools -- ISBN converter (with optional hyphenation after conversion)

This link would fit under "10-digit/13-digit conversion tools" in the response page when you search a book by its ISBN at (for example)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/9780674896451#Find_other_editions

It converts and hyphenates (almost) all ISBNs in the world. The converter at loc.gov only hyphenates ISBNs for some countries.

It can give information in several formats. It provides more information than the converter at ISBN.org if you compare

http://isbn.org/xmljson.php?request_data={%22isbn%22%3A%229780674896451%22}&request_code=isbn_convert

with the concise URL (where "LF4" stands for formatting with linebreaks and 4 indents) at

http://www.acc.umu.se/~saasha/getcover/?isbn=9780674896451&propsep=LF4

where you get URNs, links and thumbnail info. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:6B0:E:2018:0:0:0:224 (talk) 23:36, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

2001:6B0:E:2018:0:0:0:224 (talk) 19:21, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Not really sure how this fits into this page - please specify exactly how/where you would add it and what purpose it would serve here, and re-open the request. Thanks, --ElHef (Meep?) 15:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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adding inventaire.io in Book-swapping websites

Hi, I'm the developer of inventaire.io and I wonder if it could be added as a book source, probably in the Book-swapping websites section: it's a book giving/sharing/selling platform based on Wikidata and Wikipedia; so much so that it is now used as an example of how to integrate Wikidata knowledge as an external application.
The link to a book page can either be from its isbn - e.g. https://inventaire.io/entity/isbn:978-2-07-027437-6 - or it's Wikidata id - e.g. https://inventaire.io/entity/wd:Q53592. Is it the right place to make such a request?
Zorglub27 (talk) 09:50, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

@Maxlath: This is the right place for the request. Your website is very attractive in presenting the Wikidata and Wikipedia information on a book. However, it isn't clear to me what value it would offer people here. Most users of this page are looking to obtain a copy, search its text, or locate reviews, none of which inventaire.io seems to facilitate. What does inventaire.io offer our users? Daask (talk) 12:33, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

@Daask: inventaire.io primary goal is to facilitate obtaining a copy of a book a friend or neighbor might be offering to give, lend, or sell, and it might also offer the possibility to publish reviews under a Creative Common license in some near future. -- Maxlath (talk) 16:19, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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Indiebound website accepts only ISBN-13

The IndieBound website seems to only accept ISBN-13 and not ISBN-10 as a search term. Anyone know a way to have the Book sources page convert ISBN-10's automatically to ISBN-13 to feed to this site? Blainster (talk) 04:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

There are interactive tools listed at Wikipedia:ISBN#Types, including one by @Nihiltres:. Perhaps it could be used or reworked to address this somehow? LeadSongDog come howl! 15:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

This would in theory be best addressed in the back end of Special:BookSources, but we might be able to smooth it over with site JS (at the cost of not supporting older browsers). Depending on how the Special:BookSources page is rendered (haven't checked specifics), we might also be able to just make a Lua-based template that does automatic conversion for the few links that require it (supporting JS-less browsers). Conversion (without validation) is relatively trivial; for reference search for methods.getDigit = and //Converted version in the source of my ISBN tool. While I haven't freely-licensed the code at this point (sheer laziness), I'm a) pretty sure that parts of it aren't copyrightable and b) open to freeing it so that it can be used on Wikipedia. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 17:10, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Authority control

Wikipedia:Authority control is relevant to identifying books, especially LCCN.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 18:05, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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National Library of New Zealand link obsolete

The search link no longer works and now should be something like "https://natlib.govt.nz/items?utf8=%E2%9C%93&text=MAGICNUMBER" --210.48.175.36 (talk) 22:40, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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Leysin American School Libraries

Please add a link under Switzerland in Europe for Leysin American School Libraries. The link to the online catalog is: http://leysin.mlasolutions.com/m5/catalog/?installation=Default -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Rherwatic (talk o contribs) 13:55, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

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Finland

Please add the following line Finna.fi (the new catalogue of Finnish libraries) under section Finland:

• Find this book in Finna, the catalogue of Finnish libraries

Also, please delete the outdated line:

• (also see Searching catalogues of Finnish libraries)

  Htsalminen (talk) 20:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC)  

All *.linneanet.fi links are broken, see the new ones on the Finnish page. http://www.libraries.fi/ replaces the Searching catalogues link. --80.220.82.138 (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

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Internet Archive

Internet Archive contains books. I would like to edit this page to include searching this resource to help identify sources. Also, I worked with another editor and created a search template that works on talk pages, sandbox and draft pages. It's pretty comprehensive and works well:

I would have alerted this group sooner but didn't exactly where to find you. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ? ? 12:31, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

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Special:BookSources and ISBN 10 conversion

It would be good if, when given an ISBN-10, the page could automagically show the equivalent ISBN-13.

For example, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0-500-25060-X it would show the text:

ISBN-13: 978-0-500-25060-0

including the given link. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

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Wikidata links

Please add a "Find this book on Wikidata" link. The URLs will be, for example:

• for ISBN-10: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/resolver.php?prop=P957&value=1-84938-370-7
• for ISBN-13: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/resolver.php?prop=P212&value=978-1-84938-370-7

The hyphenation is significant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:44, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Adding Library Catalog searches in United States Universities and Colleges

1. Please add the Michigan State University Library catalog. The URL is https://magic.msu.edu/search~/X?search=MAGICNUMBER Note:search will only accept an ISBN without the hyphen.
2. Please add the University of California, Los Angeles Library catalog. The URL is https://catalog.library.ucla.edu/vwebv/search?searchArg=MAGICNUMBER&searchCode=ISBN&searchType=1 Note:search will only accept an ISBN without the hyphen.
3. Please add the City University of New York Library catalog. The URL is https://onesearch.cuny.edu/primo-explore/search?query=isbn,contains,MAGICNUMBER&tab=default_tab&search_scope=everything&sortby=rank&vid=CUNY&lang=en_US Note:search will only accept an ISBN without the hyphen.
4. Please add the University of Minnesota Library catalog. The URL is https://primo.lib.umn.edu/primo-explore/search?query=isbn,contains,MAGICNUMBER&tab=default_tab&search_scope=default_scope&sortby=rank&vid=TWINCITIES

Million Book Project

The Universal Library / Million Book Project ended in 2008, and it seems(?) that the books scanned from this project are all available from the Internet Archive. Today, at least, their website is showing an error page (although it was up at least as recently as May 2017). I removed it from this page. Daask (talk) 11:41, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Additional ebook subscription sources

MyiLibrary

Example content

Springer Ebooks

Springer's ISBNs are sensitive to hyphenation, for both direct links and search, yet they are not consistent:

• ? Pass https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/978-1-137-60074-5
• ? Pass https://link.springer.com/search?query=978-1-137-60074-5
• ? Fail https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9780230599192
• ? Fail https://link.springer.com/search?query=9781137600745
• ? Pass https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9780230599192

I have no idea how to deal with this. Daask (talk) 14:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Safari Books Online

Safari Books Online seems to have two entirely separate ebook viewing modes accessed through different search pages. The one currently used, at my.safaribooksonline.com, leads to eg. http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/web-development/ruby/9780132480352/chapter-1dot-ruby-in-review/ch01 , whereas the alternate search at www.safaribooksonline.com leads to eg. https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/the-ruby-way/9780132480352/ch01.html I decided to continue using my.safaribooksonline.com, since www.safaribooksonline.com won't find some alternate ISBNs, eg. 978-0-321-71463-3 (compare). Daask (talk) 14:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Library library catalog question

Should this use "Monterey Public Library catalog" or "Monterey Public Library library catalog"? Right now, it isn't consistent. I have a mild preference for the former, but mostly would like it to be consistent. Daask (talk) 13:23, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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